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Lolita Magdalena's avatar

💯 I’ve experienced different levels of consciousness and I know this to be true. Thank you for sharing what is a controversial topic.🙏

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Ty Nichols, MDiv's avatar

https://open.substack.com/pub/tynichols/p/what-does-it-mean-to-be-human-in-1a2?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=1sze8

I tackle this topic as well.

I truly appreciated your article—it resonated deeply and affirmed my conviction that the conscious or quantum field represents the next great frontier in healing.

From my perspective, the rise of AI is compelling us to rediscover what it truly means to be human. And in that rediscovery, I believe we must return (learn?) to an ontological understanding that includes the energetic, spiritual, and quantum dimensions of our existence.

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Dr. Jason Yuan's avatar

And I agree! Thanks for sharing your insights!

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James Flanagan's avatar

I think we overestimate the significance of consciousness out of human vanity and our inability to escape the subjective nature of consciousness. I think it's a simple function of memory and it exists in dimensions from zero on up. Elemental human consciousness is planar. Linear consciousness involves correlation and expectation, planar consciousness the ability to see patterns and understand analogies.

Three dimensional, stereoscopic consciousness is real intelligence and the ability to live coherently within a story or myth with the full benefit of whatever reason gives us. The story is inescapable for us and it's delusional to think otherwise. Thinking otherwise causes people to believe they can live in a higher way, among abstractions, when in reality it makes them inhuman. This is partly based on my reading of Quine but I'm a bit rusty on that.

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Men's Media Network's avatar

How do we study a phenomenon that’s outside the detection boundaries of our instruments?

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Edward Carmona's avatar

If you consider that your ability to “sense” consciousness then it is not outside of the detection boundary,.,its just not part of the 5 physical senses

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Men's Media Network's avatar

If it can’t be studied objectively, it can’t be science.

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Men's Media Network's avatar

Theoretical yes. Physics not so much. 🙄

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Men's Media Network's avatar

Theoretical yes. Physics not. 🙄

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The Recursivist's avatar

Not even going to drag this into the endless instrumentalism vs formalism vs ontological realism debate—that rabbit hole’s been tunneled by better minds than ours.

But let’s clear this up:

We can measure neural oscillations, EEG patterns, and neurochemical shifts. And those do correlate with altered states of consciousness—REM sleep, dreams, anesthesia, psychedelics, DMT, you name it. The relationship between signal and subjective state is empirical, not speculative.

So no, this isn’t waving incense over mystery boxes. It’s tracing the edge of what’s measurable while theorizing what lies just beyond. That’s not “not physics.” That’s exactly how every major paradigm shift in physics has ever begun.

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Men's Media Network's avatar

Whatever you say professor. All your scientific buzzwords, and you still don't know why a flower is beautiful or why love conquers all. You are scientifically masturbating into a sink.

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The Recursivist's avatar

“You’re scientifically masturbating into a sink”

Bro… who hurt you in chemistry class?

That’s not a critique—that’s salty fan behavior.

You tuned into my comment just to scream at the tide like it owes you closure.

Call it scientific sink play all you want—go ahead, fan out.

Ink’s free. You just didn’t know it stains forever.

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Men's Media Network's avatar

Have fun with your popular New Age toys. 🙄

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B art's avatar

Some of us remain lacking in our understanding of gravity and willing to war over the definition. Still, as it remains, and with force, pushing for more.

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Andrew Beaton's avatar

Nature is reality. Listen carefully.

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Kenneth E. Harrell's avatar

It is an interesting idea, in my novel "Awakening" I refer to it as "Universal Línghún"

https://kennetheharrell.substack.com/p/welcome-to-awakening-my-new-science

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Donna Barthule's avatar

“Life developed as a vehicle for consciousness”

“Consciousness is the music of the Universe.”

• Stuart Hameroff

I’ve excitedly consumed every piece of information about the hard problem of consciousness for years, beginning in earnest when I watched two films: “Mindwalk”, based on the whole systems writings of Fritjof Capra, and “What The Bleep Do We Know”.

Thrilling.

The Uni-Verse, the one song, “the Is” I call myself a quantum Taoist — The Cosmos, experiencing itself in corporeal form.

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Donna Barthule's avatar

Andy,

I ordered an expensive European pressed DVD some years ago — and lost it. I cried when I realized it was gone. I just looked now on Amazon and there’s some paperback book being sold - a 30th anniversary edition of (I’m guessing) the script.

I love reading Capra’s books and articles … I started long long ago with “The Tao of Physics”.

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Andy's avatar

Thanks Donna! I didn’t know it was based on a book. The thing that has always amazed me is that everything we know is almost entirely “empty space.” The scene where Ulman’s character visualizes the size of an atoms components is mind-blowing.

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Donna Barthule's avatar

Yes! And I just now finished watching it.

…based on Capra’s work, his books: The Turning Point, Web of Life … his brother Bernt directed the film.

I love so much about the film and the ideas. I immersed myself in whole systems readings for years, along with writings on epistemology and general semantics. The only fields of study that make sense to me.

I like the “everything we know is wrong” zeitgeist of it… Doors of Perception, … so much that human senses cannot see, hear, feel, but only guess at, cast as metaphors.

“If we understand a little bit of what we’re doing, maybe it will help us to find our way out of the maze of hallucinations that we have created around ourselves.”

•Gregory Bateson,

Steps to an Ecology of Mind

https://www.fritjofcapra.net/

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Andy's avatar

I often identify myself as an amateur epidemiologist. As I just wrote in an unrelated thread, “Everything goes through the wringer!” I take nothing for granted.

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Donna Barthule's avatar

I love that!

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Andy's avatar

I loved Mindwalk. I don’t understand why it’s so hard to find and watch these days.

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Donna Barthule's avatar

Holy cow! I just found it on YouTube:

https://youtu.be/Uec1CX-6A38?si=AihZBZ9Ae4RAe37E

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Nate Kokernot's avatar

Hi Jason, I basically posted the same article this morning, just with reference to different scientific theories (with some overlap) than yours. Perhaps we’re onto something important here!

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The Alchemist's Dream's avatar

Cool!

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Doctor Steven Murphy's avatar

This is great work! Thank you for sharing it.

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Mark.Kennard's avatar

You may find this interesting on my experiences with consciousness

https://healthcarenotmedicine.substack.com/p/the-generator-of-consciousness

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Camille's avatar

We all have the capacity to connect to consciousness - it’s all around us all we have to do is take care of our vessel, shut down the noise, plugin and listen to the language we hear… all my writings are coming from these channeled messages, realisations, observations, epiphanies… all incarnated in my own being through my stories and experience…

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Old Wolf's avatar

The Incas might agree with you.

The lower levels and more important structures, like the Temple of the Sun and the Intihuatana, are characterized by ashlar masonry, where stones are cut and fitted with remarkable precision without mortar.

The upper layers feature a construction style using smaller, less precisely cut stones, often in a cellular or honeycomb pattern, contrasting with the finely crafted, large stones used for the lower foundations.

The latter construction style is dated to a more recent era, and some of it can be seen in sections of the lower foundations where repairs were made by later generations. This would seem to show that the original techniques were lost over time.

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Teresa Buckner's avatar

Thank you for this article. The stories I have with hundreds of Reiki clients can only be described as direct connection with The Great Mystery. How can two people wordlessly experience similar things? How can pain released be transmuted into noise in the environment? How can I “hear” words with deep, personal meaning to the client? I know what it is even if traditional science doesn’t. After every session I say, “I’m always amazed, but never surprised.”

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Heather's avatar

As a Buddhist & a Craniosacral practitioner, I have experienced & witnessed many “subjective healing” experiences! Will be cool to see where this field of research goes!

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Tim August's avatar

Hooey.

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Andy's avatar

Damn spellcheck. He meant to write “Hooray!”

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Tim August's avatar

Em, no. Intelligence is not metaphysical end of story.

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Andy's avatar

“End of story!” One of Tony Soprano’s favorite lines.

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