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Andrea Cho - Science Witch's avatar

Awesome article again. 👏

The waters within us connects us to everything, creates and holds electrical information - our energy. The waters outside of us does that too. Therefore the waters of our connective tissue is interacting with more than just our body, but also our external world.

J. E. Gregor's avatar

Yay Fascia!

When can we get some microtubules?

https://jegregor.substack.com/p/the-energetic-mechanism-of-life

Dr. Jason Yuan's avatar

Ah! Yes. Good connection. Will read and get back to you!

Ty Nichols's avatar

What stays with me is not only the interstitium itself but the quieter confession buried in your telling, that the thing was never hidden at all, that it lay in every cadaver and every incision for a century while we cut through it and called it nothing. We did not fail to see it because it was small. We failed because we had been trained to see it as empty, and that is nearly always how the sacred escapes our notice, not by hiding but by being dismissed as negligible. There is an old Hebrew intuition that the spaces between things are not voids to be crossed, but the very places where presence gathers, and your closing turn names something true regardless of how far the bioelectric science finally reaches, that what we took to be separate may have been continuous all along. I would only hold the meridian and the metaphor a little more loosely than the anatomy, since the fluid and the channels are now established, while the deeper interpretation is still unfolding, and that patience seems fitting for a discovery this young. But the wonder is right, and the lesson larger than the body. We keep mistaking fullness for emptiness, and calling the holy a gap.

Geri DeLaRosa's avatar

Nature at its core. The body a magnificent wonder we know so little about-not separate from the universe - the circle unbroken

My Eastern Astrology's avatar

This is exactly the bridge we need. Eastern traditions have long understood the body as an energy system, and it’s fascinating to see science finally catching up. The biofield isn’t mystical — it’s measurable. Thank you for this perspective 🙏

Marie Gunn's avatar

Everything I’ve read and am learning about the interstitium is so fascinating and interesting!! I’m intrigued. I appreciate this article.

Cunning Folk Media's avatar

Simply amazing. Thank you for this article. 🙌🏼

Carl Shaw's avatar

Beautiful

Iggy's avatar

Jason: Are you referring to the “Fascia” ?

Dr. Jason Yuan's avatar

Good question, Iggy! They are often linked together because of their proximity and appearance.

Fascia is a visible, fibrous tissue that wraps and structurally supports your muscles and organs. In contrast, the interstitium is much smaller and nested within those tissues.

Therefore, to put it simply, the interstitium exists inside the layers of fascia!

Thomas Ehmer's avatar

If you like, I have a podcast with Neil Theise - who discovered that for the western anatomy - he shares his story

https://thomasehmer1.substack.com/p/identity-is-electromagnetic?utm_source=direct&r=67h18k&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=post%20viewer

Dr. Jason Yuan's avatar

Yes Neil! He's great! Happy you interviewed him! Will check out!

Thomas Ehmer's avatar

Cool, Enjoy, it’s it is interesting how his whole life seems to be like an interstitium - if you want to see it like that.

Thomas Ehmer's avatar

The YouTube is here - we cover quite some ground what happened after Why Retiring Destroyed His Sense of Self: Neil Theise on Expat Life and the Science of Recognition

https://youtu.be/3uBo40J0ssI

What Nobody Told You About...'s avatar

Dr. Yuan, thank you for this.

The line that stopped me was "they missed it because they had been trained to see it as nothing." That is the whole story, and it extends far past the interstitium.

A bioelectric network carrying four times the volume of the entire blood supply was invisible for a hundred years, not because it was hidden, but because the model people were trained in had no place to put it. That should give us pause about what else the dominant frame is currently not seeing. If something this large can be dismissed as packing material for a century, the question is not whether other architectures of the body are being missed. The question is how many.

This is why, in my own work, I have come to use an inverted pyramid: consciousness at the top, brain in the middle, body at the base. Not because the body does not matter, but because what we see in the body depends entirely on what we are willing to perceive. The interstitium did not appear in 2018. The capacity to see it did.

Looking forward to more of your work.

Dr. Lynn

What Nobody Told You About...

Dr. Jason Yuan's avatar

Thanks for sharing your insights Lynn. I refer back to M. Levin's work on bioelectricity oftentimes. It appears to be all connected

What Nobody Told You About...'s avatar

Your very welcome and yes, it certainly does.

Isaiah Antares's avatar

It's thought that dimethyl sulfoxide heals the body by making fluid flow better in the interstitium.

Peter Merlot's avatar

Thank you, a great read!

Have you read any of the articles available on @The Meta-Rational Think Tank?

Here’s one that I believe is the flip side of the same coin, consciousness.

You’re presentation and experience based writing is perfectly complemented by the scientific perspectives given on the page. It may be worth looking at:

https://consciousphysics.substack.com/p/the-human-body-as-a-fundamental-quantum?r=8haiqm&utm_medium=ios

Michael Forrest's avatar

Awesome article.. as a body worker it matches so many of my “casual” observations.

Always amazed at the amazing body!

Middle Cosmos's avatar

The interstitium piece is the kind of finding I love — a real anatomical structure, real piezoelectric mechanics, real fluorescent-dye papers.

The bridge to oneness is the part I'd want to slow down on.

Mahayana's version of "interconnected" — pratītyasamutpāda — isn't claiming there's a *substance* connecting everything. It's the opposite claim: nothing has its own standalone identity, so "separateness" was the illusion all along.

The interstitium gives us a continuous *substrate*. Pratītyasamutpāda gives us continuous *dependence*. Related, but not the same move.

Curious where you'd put the line — does the interstitium argue for something stronger than dependence, or is "highway between organs" enough?